On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote:
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko <mzatko@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not
the same as
Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :)
I'm getting kind of confused myself. I want to grab an image to throw
onto an old machine for my kids to use. I just want a desktop with a
web browser and a mail client. Workstation isn't suitable; they
aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out.
I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past,
installing from a Live CD left one with different defaults than an
install from DVD, so I've learned to avoid the Live CD. Perhaps that
reflex is now wrong.) I guess I could go with one of the spins, but I
don't see a GNOME spin anywhere. Is there really no DVD image for a
generic GNOME desktop install? Maybe I should make Kevin happy and
get the KDE spin. :-)
Actually, the KDE, Xfce, LXDE, and Mate spins all seem likely to fit
my use case, but I'm very surprised that there isn't a GNOME
equivalent. Or is there? If there is, I can't tell from the
information on getfedora.org. What are we recommending for people who
want to install a generic "access the Internet" type of environment
for non-techies? None of the products obviously address that
audience.
This issue has been addressed tangentially in the marathon
"Workstation defaults to wide-open firewall" thread.
As best I can tell from Matthew Miller's responses there, Fedora has
abandoned that portion of its previous user base that was using
Fedora as a general, secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. Those
users are no longer supported by any Fedora product.
I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to
support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative
types and others who have heretofore been using Fedora as a general,
secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. The only ideas I have come up
with so far are:
• Install Fedora 20, update it, then fedup to "nonproduct" variant
of Fedora 21; or
• Use the server net install to install a minimal system as a
"nonproduct" variant of Fedora 21, and then install a long list of
packages needed to convert it into a general desktop OS.
I have not yet tested and don't know how practical either of those
ideas is.
My users are accustomed to Gnome, so I prefer not to change to one of
the alternative desktop environment spins if there is an easy way
forward with Gnome.
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Mike Pinkerton
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