On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:11:33PM +0000, Ian Malone wrote: > > have a proposal for a new spin focused on privacy and security — the > > Netizen Spin. (If you're interested, I think that could use additional > > contributors.) > I was under the impression spins were to be phased out. I could be > wrong, the discussion was about the time of the product proposal. That's wrong; the clear outcome of that discussion was that we want to keep them, and provide more flexiblity and opportunity for spins maintainers as well. > The thing is, while everyone in this discussion is probably capable of > changing such defaults, it reflects a shift in priorities that leaves > me wondering whether there'll be more such things that change and > current users need to keep an eye on. If workstation doesn't want to So, again, I think that the idea that this reflects a drastic shift in priorities isn't accurate, and with disagreement on that axiom, the rest of the argument is just people talking past each other. Everyone wants Fedora to succeed. Everyone wants free software to win. Everyone wants better privacy and security for our users. It's a basic fact that Workstation WG chose this as the best path to get there -- whether or not you agree, let's work from a basic assumption of trust that we're all on the same side here. Everyone knows that there are improvements to be made, but it's _not_ an easy problem. Contributions are welcome towards making that better for F22 and beyond. (Use cases. Design mockups. Code....) -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct