On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 02:31:58PM +0000, Ian Malone wrote: > There are three products: workstation, server, cloud. Workstation is > the one for desktop use. That leaves server to aim for the traditional > fedora user base, since cloud is (understandably) a very different > thing. So if you want a desktop system with a security focus where do > you look now? So, it's important to understand — here on the devel list, certainly — that these three are part of a marketing strategy, and in order for such a thing to be effective and not just fluffy talk, it does involve technical changes to match the plan. Right now, "desktop system with a security focus for new users" isn't a key part of that effort. I certainly don't dispute that user security and education are good goals, and I don't think anyone on the workstation team does either — it's just a matter of the steps we take to get there. So, if you're not in the target of that focus, where do you look? Well, you can certainly pick one of our other desktop spins, which have different firewall defaults. Currently, all the generic one, but I'd like to move to a model where spins have more freedom here too. We even have a proposal for a new spin focused on privacy and security — the Netizen Spin. (If you're interested, I think that could use additional contributors.) Or, you can do what I do: start with Fedora Workstation and then configure it in a way that makes sense for my needs, or if you're deploying for users into a managed environment, use the tools the OS provides to preconfigure the system for whatever makes sense there. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct