-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Well, I'll understand these aspects. But when I think about Linux, especially about Fedora, I'm thinking about the freedom to make decisions. This means to me, to customize and take advantage of my computer and in this case my operating system. It's not about a simple Yes / No Dialog, it's more about an explanation and providing possible solutions and if you want so to educate the user. People using Fedora are usually not simple "I'd like to have a more stable and secure computer"-guys, they are already pretty aware of the advantages of a linux distribution and their privacy - so on they probably like to decide whats happening. I hope it's not needed to mentions that we are not Ubuntu, Windows or OSx. We are a free and open Linux distribution and every step in another direction is an attack against the ideas of free open source and open mind. We need to support our users and offer them to make decisions. * Explaining the user why * Explaining the user what does it mean to open a port * Offer the user a appropriate way to resolve his issue This is just my opinion, don't take this offensive. :-) On 08.12.2014 11:05, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.12.2014 um 10:50 schrieb Bastien Nocera: >>> We don't need open or preconfigured high ports. >>> >>> What we really need is a user notification with options to >>> allow or deny like we do with SELinux. >>> >>> That would be a appropriate solution for a workstation. >> >> No it wouldn't be, because users don't like being asked security >> questions > > STOP THAT - you do NOT speak for "the users" > > you speak just for the careless part but they are already trained > monkeys click on "yes" and "OK", at least they are responsible for > their click > > for brand new PC users the sad in that attitude is they will never > have a chance raise their voice about it - if you are aksing the > right users in a survey you can always have the reulst you want > > the rest is fine with think and answer a question of the OS and > *after that* repsonsible for his own decision - making the decision > implicit "we open that for you without asking" is dangerous and > harmful > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUhYAeAAoJEGtRNj3Wo+zBYfoP/3Hf9z7KX7xdWEyixbeoKQrD Avc99N7v+6GV+WAKsk2DLXfbXWNV+erzCyBxV2rco6uGehafeGLPaeiB/asHnFpt U6cJF3yqEFn99lstULZIEUvBmm37XefFJrAYr6LAopdjGbPC0zwtDtud+HyU9Kyq Ju7x6l+iwhK/Wr7E+mw6rWOtjxzMgcDe5SnhDy1q6rs9fZaNdI+fzOdnz5f1KRcj TBUftczn0CpYLGqS91YIRhZFn5q40f/M8MVRNNa8MAvcS4ACdZS7jY0SOWBd0IWJ R/uIWQADdka1snaCqoTmR/FcFAG8PenOuC2YfvlNCWbWNQFxxQM0VY97h3O6xIKI YAH/7EAzx3+fxqpykeKwhqd6yrYj+nIBvYIFikll+89YOb7FmPghP8mW0TR9JNhP sTd+emnwDJN5dxVDi4V3+HwaduggU9Q97GjThRJwX0vToyc69J5CDEOZbh3wqqBb PqeaR+6wNUWxpjOfApVzGatyYlOCiFIOPucLXWO7URTGjoOLQfXXOvl/L98g+ZK1 Ha45paMhprWYW9xi1xwaPxGJUYD4My2Tk15blKatxiPuZi3m5V+UPhMiaMLEkoIj /JHf+1hH4XA1kx8cJpTnEq+cFNip72YZUXtKN3Iz3EDfOcNocE134Yz9QgSqOAH9 06ROa5j1IFLf3/I4Xerm =pG3X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
