Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Also, while I think it's been unclear in this thread, the main reason > that the firewall GUI was taken out was because the Workstation guys > want to design a more user-understandable one and include that directly > (if I am remembering that conversation correctly). The current one is > not terribly easy to understand (though it's certainly an improvement > over s-c-firewall). Huh? Especially the last part really makes me go "huh?". System-config- firewall is dead simple to use: I want service S to work, I check the box for service S if it's one of the common ones, or pick service S from the full /etc/services list if it's an uncommon one, or enter its port manually if it's some nonstandard service listening on an arbitrary port. I don't see how the UI can be any simpler. firewall-config is only complicated because firewalld is overly complex. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct