On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 11:02:28AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >For us, that would mean alternating between concentrating on release > >features and on release engineering and QA process and tooling. During > >the "tick", we'd focus on new features and minimize unrelated rel-eng > >change. During the "tock", we'd focus on the tools, and minimize change > >that might affect that. > Presumably we wouldn't need to do this even up. We want say 2 to 1 > or 3 to 1. A waltz beat, say. :) > >* prevent compounded delays caused by intersection of feature needs > > and releng changes > There was a bit of that this time. But this was a really big change. > Are you thinking we will have this scale of change for releng on a > regular basis? So, frankly — and I think the rel eng team won't be offended here, because they know it more than anyone! — we're beyond what the current releng overall design can really scale to, and it needs an order of magnitude _more_ work in order to allow us to keep growing. (And that's not just with the Fedora.next stuff or new things like Atomic — the sheer _size_ means composes are going to take more than 24 hours in the forseeable future.) -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct