On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Alec Leamas <leamas.alec@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Feedback why this is impossible isn't really helpful here, most of us are > aware of the limitations. Given that we agree on the overall goals (?), > useful input is what can be done, and how. I don't think it's fair to say we agree on the overall goals, considering no goals have been explicitly stated. You mentioned that the number of users a package has would "be a great input for any packager", but the follow up question is: "to what end?" Assuming we agreed to a definition of "user", I'm not sure a straight count of the number of users a package has would provide much in the way of usable information except the reassurance that someone is actually making use of your hard work (which is an important reminder, especially when you're working for free). That's not to say that there aren't useful questions that could be answered, but so far they haven't been asked. I think if you start with the right question, it will be easier to find a route to the answer. (As an aside, the various reasons that reliably measuring usage is impossible make for interesting discussion, so I'm glad you brought this up. Hopefully whoever lands in the community action & impact lead position can help come up with good questions to ask and ways to answer them.) Thanks, BC -- Ben Cotton -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct