On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 12:57:47PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 12:38:24PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Am 01.12.2014 um 12:36 schrieb Alec Leamas: > > >On 01/12/14 12:29, Reindl Harald wrote: > > >> > > >>Am 01.12.2014 um 12:26 schrieb Alec Leamas: > > > > > >>>Lets face it: I envy those who can measure the usage from a download > > >>>counter or so. Can we have something similar? > > >> > > >>no - you have no clue which mirror was used without explicit tracking in > > >>YUM/DNF and given the noise about the recent Firefox changes you won't > > >>even consider seriously tracking inside the distribution > > >> > > >>additionally downloads are meaningless - many setups with more than one > > >>machine have their local mirrors and a download can be 1, 10 or 50 > > >>installed instances > > > > > >I hesitated when writing my initial message, didn't include this: > > > > > >Feedback why this is impossible isn't really helpful here, most of us > > >are aware of the limitations. Given that we agree on the overall goals > > >(?), useful input is what can be done, and how > > > > it is helpful because the fact it is impossible will shutdown that > > discussion because - well, it's impossible > > The question becomes, is any numbers better than no number? > > In theory, we could get an idea of how much a package is downloaded. Mirror are > syncing all the content, so they introduce a baseline while user is what > introduce the variability. > So if we were to be able to gather logs from a) the main repos + b) some > volunteer repos, we could get a trend. > The number would of course not be exact as you mentioned but we could get an > idea, something like: we have 132 mirrors and my package was downloaded 133 > times, which potentially means there is one user (me) using that package. > There might be more, but if no-one ever reports a bug and we see the number of > download is basically equal to the number of mirrors, we can get an impression > that this package isn't used by many people. > > So we come back to the question: is any number better than no number at all? > Even to get a trend? it's the wrong question, because there is no one single answer. It depends on what you want to _do_ with that number. Then you can decide how much error is acceptable and work from there. Cheers, Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
