On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:05:35PM +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: > True, as you also have to explicitly click a tile to send data to > Mozilla. Well, I don't think the act of hiding/closing an ad (by clicking on the 'x' attached to it) can be reasonably interpreted as informed consent. Yet, it is explicitly listed among the tracked actions according to what Darren Herman apparently told the advertiser community. > No. We are talking about the tiles. I didn't see anyone suggesting we > remove Google search. It's like the tiles feature crossed a line, which > is far from truth. I'm not sure about that. Besides the feature itself, there's also the issue of the language used to explain it. Describing the placement of advertisements as an "enhancement" to users, in my opinion, definitely crosses the line to dishonesty and bullshitting of users. Really, this stuff is communicated in a form of double-speak marketing verbiage that I'm just not used to hear in communicating with open source projects. Read the initial blog posts about it. > I'm talking about the "advertisement" part. Some people seem to be > bothered by this alone. Tiles feature indeed promotes some websites, but > we already do that. No, actually we don't. We promote websites because we honestly think they're useful, not because we're paid to do so. I don't think we should drop Firefox from the default installation. I really like it, despite something at Mozilla going terribly wrong lately. I do think this "feature" needs to be shipped as off by default, though. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct