On 11/17/2014 11:47 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > On Mon, 2014-11-17 at 11:37 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: >> I don't consider my IP address a call to home. [...] Even Gnome checks my >> IP's location to fix my timezone. > > Not by default, you have to enable this explicitly. True, as you also have to explicitly click a tile to send data to Mozilla. But the main point here was that your IP (the only thing Firefox gets before you click anything) is not sensitive data. >>> Second, a user can easily accidentally click on ad, since it is mixed >>> among other tiles, with the user's browsing habits. >> >> And a user may accidentally start searching on the Google search box >> before she realizes that she sends data to Google "as she types" (that's >> how you get recommendations). > > Indeed, this is in Firefox though, which is the application people are > saying they'd like to change, so it stops doing that without explicit > user opt-in. No. We are talking about the tiles. I didn't see anyone suggesting we remove Google search. It's like the tiles feature crossed a line, which is far from truth. >> Again, this thing we discuss is already happening on Gnome Shell. Type >> "twitter" on your Gnome's search box. > > I'm pretty confident that no network query is done when you search for > that, and that instead GNOME Software searches in its local metadata > cache. I'm talking about the "advertisement" part. Some people seem to be bothered by this alone. Tiles feature indeed promotes some websites, but we already do that. > All examples you have given of such opt-out network calls are either in > Firefox or incorrect. > > So maybe there is a need to change something in the Firefox default > configuration after all? :) I'm not much in favor of that, since that's the way this open source project gets revenues, but that could be indeed a first step. And I don't think we'll have any problems with the branding. But changing default browser is a totally different discussion.
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