Seriously, both of you: this back and forth (and particularly the personal squabbling!) do not help us with Fedora development, which is what this list is for. If there's a problem somewhere here which we can address, let's talk about technical problems and solutions. Or if there are upstream issues, please take them upstream. If you feel like someone else on the list is responding in a non-constructive way, you don't "win" by doubling down on that. You're not going to convince the other party, and the fighting doesn't convince anyone else either. You win by taking the high road: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo> -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct