On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 17:00 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 22.09.2014 um 16:48 schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > On Seg, 2014-09-22 at 16:08 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> no you refuse to understand that *nobody* wants to split > >> out *all* systemd logs because just the excessive *user > >> session* logging and that this messages should not exist > >> at all in a non-debugging environment > > > > IIUC , this messages doesn't exist in a non-debugging environment since > > ends of Apr [1], or I shut up this messages somehow , I don't > > remember ... > > * i shut up them with "loginctl enable-linger" > * that's a workaround > * doing so in F20 to prevent forget with F21 leads to > another bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619#c54 This message is from 2014-08-30 and is to fix shutdown, loginctl disable-linger $USER, seems not reenable messages flood, if that what you mean . But please calm down , this is not a very big deal .. > it is even *possible* that it was changed but if so it shows > several problems: > > * nobody knows, people already built workarounds > * it takes too long for any reaction on such issues > so that people can't or won't wait for a response > and try to find bugreports because lost hope that > things become better in a reasonable time > * the reaction close with "NOTABUG" after weeks of ignore is wrong > > frankly that was once introduced even in F19 backports and > quickly fixed while also point to "loginctl enable-linger" > which is *really* a dirty workaround leading the user sessions > are started at boot before the first cronjob fires up which > wastes ressources at boot > > only that it was fixed in a short because that backport was > not targeted for F19 shows how easy it could be changed if > upstream would care about downstream in any way > > look at the response from Johann directed to downstream in general, > Fedora and FeSCO in special and the repeatet responses "we are upstream > and this and that are downstream problems we don't care" shows how > terrible wrong things are going > > a upstream of a *critical core componentent* with a "i don't care > about downstream" attitude is only one thing: dangerous > > -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
