Am 19.06.2014 21:09, schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 19.06.2014 20:59, schrieb Jared K. Smith: >> Sure, but you have to understand -- you're a power user. You know enough to do this in yum for your particular use >> case, which means you probably know enough to change the DNF settings with regards to cron-based metadata >> retrieval. What I think you're missing (and frankly, seem to miss in the lot of fedora-devel discussions you take >> part in) is that Fedora isn't engineered around *your* particular needs. We do things mostly by consensus, and aim >> to make it a pleasant experience for the *average* user (or whatever we have in the Fedora community that >> approximates an average user), and not just for power users with very specific needs and requirements > > that must be also the reason for proposals like disable the firewall by default > while power-users never would do that and the ordinary user is in danger by > rely on careful defaults > > what many developers refuse to understand if i complain about things is that > *i have no problem* to adopt many wrong decisions and make them sane, the > ordinary user don't know that all and relies on defaults > >> Whether you like it or not, one of the most common complaints about yum (especially >> from people coming from another package management system) is that it seems slow >> because of the necessity to download the metadata > > Whether you like it or not, the reason i laugh about Debian based systems > over many years is that "apt-get upgrade" don't do anything most of the > time until you force it to refresh the metadata before and then you get > the recent security updates you already know that they are available and BTW i am not playing around that much on my Rawhide VM but had *two times* today by type "dnf whatever" the "there is already an instance, wating for PID..." nonsense caused by the background metadata refresh do you *really* think that's a good user-expierience?
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