On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name >> > is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date. >> > yum-cron can actually apply updates [....] >> That sounds dangerous ... updates are not really atomic (i.e not at >> all) doing them silently in the background is a very bad idea. > > Yet, it works pretty well most of the time. I've done it at decent scale on > production machines with no real issues -- and, most critically, with > *fewer* issues than on unpatched systems. > > Real issues do _occasionally_ occur, but so do bad disks, failed ram, bad > offline updates, etc., etc. Fear over lack of atomicity is letting "it's not > perfect!" get in the way of real world usefulness. > > Additionally, these updates aren't _silent_ -- they're logged and there's an > e-mailed report. Well I meant things like: Admin: "OK I will reboot box 'foo'" <reboots box 'foo' that was running an update> *boom* (well actually that case can be "solved" by using systemd-inhibitors ... does it do that?) -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct