Am 14.06.2014 16:39, schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > Le 14/06/2014 15:59, Reindl Harald a écrit : >> what eactly is broken in the CLI? > > I'll chose an example you care about: protected packages. > You pretend that DNF maintainers refused to support that, but actually, the answer is that they think it should be > implemented as a plugin. I agree with you, most of the time, removing the running kernel is stupid but they are use > cases where it makes sense. DNF maintainers felt that it should not be in core because it clutters the code and is > restrictive for users. restrictive for users? the 1 out of a million can use "rpm -e" > A smarter move would be to (kindly) request that such plugin is written and enabled by default in F22. a smarter way would have been write such plugin instead close the bugreport >> that must be why "dnf remove kernel" kills your system > > If I give you a riffle, and then you willingly shot yourself in the foot, don't complain that is somehow different than replace the package-manager with a riffle Am 14.06.2014 16:32, schrieb drago01: >> "dnf remove yum dnf kernel" ruins your system >> yum don't allow that for good reasons >> >> that's unacepptable behavior and was refused to change > > I can list a tons of commands that "ruins your system" ... > While I might understand why use "yum remove kernel" (to remove > everything but the running kernel) the other commands do not make > sense. > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda also "ruins the system" ... -> strawman the strawman is on your side * dd's job is to write raw data * the package managers job is help to maintain a machine and ruin it - especially if it did not many years before by doing exactly the same >> dnf needs much more RAM currently while the feature page >> pretends it has a smaller footprint - so it's not ready >> or the feature page is a "would nice to be" not backed >> by the reality > > Or maybe there is a bug (memory leak)? Did you file one? i know the answer: nobody runs a system with 192 MB and it don't fullfill the Fedora minimum requirements so we don't care really because it works faster the way it works
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