On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=485251 is depressing. Nine > bugs have been closed - of these, one is a review request that was > dropped, two were incorrectly closed after an ExcludeArch was added and > one was closed as a duplicate. Further, one bug was just unsubscribed > from the tracker after tests were disabled. We've correctly fixed *five* > packages that have been flagged as FTBFS on ARM. At this rate of fixing, > and given the rate at which new bugs are added, ARM will never build the > entire archive. > > Fedora is supposed to provide a consistent experience across primary > architectures. Having a subset of our packages fail to build on ARM > means that's not true, and the current state of affairs clearly violates > point 8 of the architecture promotion requirements. How can we fix this? So at the moment there's around 15,000 source packages in Fedora mainline and you're getting depressed over exactly 24 of them? I'm not sure how 24 packages is providing a inconsistent experience. In some cases the maintainer of the package hasn't bothered to close the bug when support was added, in some cases ARM was added incorrectly. For example just before mass rebuild we added Ada support which closed out around 2 dozen other packages we didn't build prior. We actively fix bugs that come up but there's some there that just currently don't make sense such as the ovirt-node package because oVirt manager doesn't support ARM virtualisation (it's just added PPC, it's first non x86 architecture, support as of the 3.4 release). Some of these are because the upstream projects either refuse to support ARM or it's using languages that aren't supported on ARM. In the case of the mono packages in that it would be supported if the mono stack was actively maintained in Fedora mainline in general. There was a proposal for F-21 to update mono to the latest 3.x release but while I've been watching it awaiting for it to land so we can test it on ARM it's failed to materialise to date in mainline. Ultimately I fail to see how missing 20 odd packages out of 15,000 odd fails to "provide a consistent experience across primary architectures" so if there's something more specific and constructive you'd like to provide it would be useful or is this just a random rant because your bored? Ultimately we've been working hard to provide as consistent environment on ARM as possible and improving all the time and all you seem to do is randomly come in Magpie style and shit on something without any other visible involvement in the ARM process or community or any context and pick on something of random like a bully. If you've got constructive criticism feel free to engage properly to assist us in improving and coming up to your exacting standards but this means of bullying tactics isn't the way to do it. Peter -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct