On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:09:08 +0000, Mike Hearn <mike@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:57:45 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > At least that's the intention. Some people think they can get away with > > not being GPL while still using and depending on deep kernel internals; > > well... to be honest the pain is on them though. > > Actually the pain is on the users. You just don't see it. Developers tend to be a more or less far from users and their problems. Open Source nature makes innovation and development follow only the taste of the developers. While commercial software innovation are lead by business and user requirements, market pressure, etc. I don't know which model is better. Sometimes I think the second is better. But I do know that Mike is completely right, and HW vendors tend to not understand the reasons of "you have to" open source it all. So they simply don't spend their time working on Linux drivers because all of this user pain. So if they just say "it runs on Linux" on their product boxes, because it will be their phone that will ring when a user buys their HW to use in an extra-terrestrial Linux distribution. In the mean time, I still don't have Linux support for my stupid webcam :( Regards, Avi