Hi, On 05/05/2014 05:45 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2014-05-05 12:34 (GMT+0200) Lennart Poettering composed: > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> How can I get it to go there and stay there? When starting F21 in >>> multi-user, logging in on tty3 and running startx, KDE shows up on >>> tty3, where, as it's currently broken[1], it needs to be killed to >>> escape it. Ctrl-Alt-BS fails to kill it (in spite of xorg.con* >>> entries intended that Ctrl-Alt-BS be enabled for that purpose), and >>> switching to tty3 is unavailable to use Ctrl-C to kill it as can be >>> done when started from tty3 but running on tty7. The only way out is >>> logging in somewhere else, or CAD. This shouldn't be. > >>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092852 > >> To get the device permissions right startx can only "upgrade" a text >> session to a graphical one, > > There is a relatively recent change, as it used to be that the first X instance would always start on tty7 no matter how started. I still have a DM running there if in graphical target. > > What is this permissions business? IOW, what search terms would lead me to an explanation of the changes, or at least a non-simplistic but not overly detailed why they occurred? > >> it cannot open a new VT. > > Why? Part of the reasons are explained here: http://hansdegoede.livejournal.com/14268.html Note that this only is valid from F-21 on-wards, but it is strongly related to why it cannot be done either in F-20. Regards, Hans -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct