On Tue, 29.04.14 10:37, Daniel J Walsh (dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > On 04/29/2014 06:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 28.04.14 17:01, Daniel J Walsh (dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > >> The problem is lots of services require systemd because they ship a > >> unit file and want systemctl reload to happen. Systemd then triggers a > >> require for udev and kmod, which docker containers do not need. > > If you discount the docs/man pages of the RPMs, how much does kmod, > > udev, systemd actually contribtue in bytes to your docker images? > > > > Lennart > > > Shrinking the the docker image is more then just size. We want to > eliminate packages that are not used (Within reason) to eliminate > problems like CVE's. If udev/systemd/kmod had a CVE we would need to > update all Container images. Well, if you are this principled maybe. But do note that we dont really ship suid binaries (except one binary with fscaps which is systemd-detect-virt), and hence by leaving systemd in the image without running it should result in no increased attack surface that wasn't there anyway... Dead code in the image, that cannot be use to acquire new caps isn't much of a security threat... Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct