Am 26.04.2014 02:01, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: > On 04/25/2014 10:53 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> I don't think our foundations ever implied that we need or want to be a closed ecosystem restricted to only the >> repository we produce. The just don't address this. > > You must understand we cannot keep back process in the distribution, be it cleanup or advancement based on some 3rd > party requirements out there since we are as powerless to help them as we are with proprietary components. you must understand that you can't do any "cleanup" coming to your mind if you are building an *operating system* without care for the real use cases out there or you will and in a very clean environment nobody but you will use over the long because nobody wants to work with a operatiung system where every few weeks thins left and right are falling down progress is not defined by destory others environments for a theoretical better future because the way some hardline "cleanupers" will never stop acting that way and begin to deprecate things which *now* you are telling everybody has to migrate to to deprecate 3 years later a *operating system* is *the base* for others work and as long some people don't understand that they are doing harm not only to the distribution and the current users, they damage Linux as a whole ecosystem because nobody right in his mind will migrate to a operating system where his work is destroyed every few months or years *that is* why microsoft is that sucessful while they are shipping technical crap - you have to find a way to develop and improve things without breaking careless left and right around you or you end meaningless - the way of such development is replace code but keep interfaces and configurations compatible and unchanged - yes that's harder than throw away anything when ever you like to do so and start from scratch - but if you don't want to do this you should not pretend you are developing an operating syteem *you* fear Fedora ends meaningless if the progress is not fast enough? the reality is Fedora ends meaningless if it is only a technical playground with no stability in interfaces endusers and developers outside the distribution can build on top of and the reason why Unix and unix-like systems are survived that many years are stable interfaces until a few years ago the "throw away and break anything"-attitude started that much
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