On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 04:38:07PM +0200, Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: > Hi, > for the F22 I am planning some bigger changes regarding initscripts > and I would like to ask for comments. > > Initscripts package was in the past a crucial part of the system. > They basicaly set up whole system during the boot. Currently > initscripts package contains "support" for initscripts > (/etc/init.d/function, service command), network initscripts and > tons of leftovers. > > So my plan is following: > > We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where > every service uses a systemd unit, so this part does not have to be > installed by default, but could be pulled in as a dependency. > > Network initscript. This will be probably the most controversial part. > In fedora 21 we will have three different tools for networking > (initscripts, NetworkManager and systemd-networkd) and all of them > will be installed by default. For various design reasons network > initscripts does not have any future (it is completely synchronous > and does not work with parallel boot very well). So I would like to > split it in its own package and drop it in the future. For most of > the use-cases NM is sufficient replacement and if somebody will miss > a static configuration we are planning to replace network initscript > functionality in networkd. > > Than there are scripts and configs like > /etc/crypttab This should be moved to cryptsetup or systemd, probably the latter. > /etc/inittab This should be moved to systemd, it is essentially a README. In addition, it contains outdated advice. > /etc/profile.d/256term.sh > /usr/lib/systemd/fedora-autorelabel > /usr/bin/ipcalc > /usr/bin/usleep > /usr/sbin/consoletype > /usr/sbin/genhostid > /usr/sbin/sushell > /var/log/btmp > /var/log/wtmp + /var/run/utmp Those three could be picked up by systemd too. Even if the long-term plan is to get rid of them, systemd writes those files anyway. Also the sysctl stuff should be consumed by systemd: /usr/lib/sysctl.d/00-system.conf /etc/sysctl.conf /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf Can we have a joint initscripts + systemd release in a few days to change ownership of those files? > I would like to find a new better home for them. > > So I am suggesting to start with splitting initscripts to these > sub-packages. > > initscripts - initscripts support > initscripts-core (looking for better name) - the leftovers which > needs to by installed by default for now, but we will move > everything from it to different components > initscripts-network - network initscript > initscripts-readonly - support for readonly root should be > redesigned completelly > initscripts-doc > initscripts-locale > initscripts-man I too think that this split is a lot of work for small gain. Working out the full dependencies set of what needs what is going to take a while, but I think it would be better to simply shrink the package to nothing in small steps. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
