Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Am 21.04.2014 10:25, schrieb drago01:
>> I did learn those things so did probably you and Harald but designing
>> an operating system that requires deep technical understanding to be
>> used is just a failure on our part
>
> you don't get it - ship dangerous defaults is just a failure on our part
>
> the user don't need to learn all the details
> he needs only three choices
>
> * share for everyone inclduing the internt
> * share only for the local network
> * don't share for the network at all because it's used for plying on localhost

Yes we should provide those choices which is what I am saying making this
choice should not (and does not) require the knowledge about networking nor
how to configure the firewall.

The tool that configures the sharing should do that for the user.  The
user should not have to
mess around with firewalls, network ports and interfaces himself.

> and while this *really* needed question is shown there should be
> a link provided to read more about the differences

>> What seems easy and obvious to people on a *operating system
>> development mailing list* is not for the general public (believe it or
>> not that's a fact). And no that's not because
>> people are stupid. They just have different professions and interests
>
> explain that to them after damage happened with "oh i thought we should
> not bother you because we think you have different professions"

You missed the point again. Did you read the scientific papers I have
pointed you at?
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