On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade <paulo.cesar.pereira.de.andrade@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > 2014-03-27 17:40 GMT-03:00 Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx>: >> On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 16:02 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> We'd like to update to Mesa 10.1 in Fedora 20, since the cycle is so >>> long before F21 and (among other goodies) it enables OpenGL 3.3 on some >>> newer Radeons. This implies rebasing LLVM 3.4, and that's where it gets >>> a little awkward: the OpenGTL package only works up to LLVM 3.3. >>> >>> However, OpenGTL is dead upstream, and the only thing requiring it in >>> F20 gold - calligra-krita, by way of libQtGTL - has already been updated >>> to Obsolete OpenGTL. As far as I know OpenGTL is the only such package >>> we have requiring LLVM 3.3, so the rest of the rebase should just be a >>> matter of updating to match F21. >>> >>> The following source packages will also be updated for the llvm rebase: >>> >>> dragonegg >>> gambas3 >>> pocl >>> pure >>> python-llvmpy >>> >>> If there are no serious objections I'll try to get this all into testing >>> early next week. If you _do_ happen to be using OpenGTL for something >>> in F20, now would be an excellent time for you to start working on >>> porting it to current LLVM. >> >> I can absolutely see the reasons for doing this, but...can it at least >> go through a fesco rubber stamp? Let's face it, entirely deprecating a >> library we shipped as part of the gold release seems to be a pretty >> flagrant violation of the update policy, and really ought to be granted >> a formal exception at the very least if it's going to go ahead. >> >> "As a result, we should avoid major updates of packages within a stable >> release. Updates should aim to fix bugs, and not introduce features, >> particularly when those features would materially affect the user or >> developer experience." >> "ABI changes in general are very strongly discouraged" >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Stable_Releases >> >> Fedora *is* a platform, not just a set of packages, however half-assedly >> we conform to that vision, so I guess I just feel a bit uncomfortable >> not at least putting up a few hoops for this to jump through. :) > > This patch may be useful: > https://abf.rosalinux.ru/openmandriva/opengtl/blob/master/opengtl-0.9.18-llvm-3.4.patch If that works we should probably use it for F20 to avoid retiring a package mid release. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
