2014-03-27 17:40 GMT-03:00 Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx>: > On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 16:02 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> We'd like to update to Mesa 10.1 in Fedora 20, since the cycle is so >> long before F21 and (among other goodies) it enables OpenGL 3.3 on some >> newer Radeons. This implies rebasing LLVM 3.4, and that's where it gets >> a little awkward: the OpenGTL package only works up to LLVM 3.3. >> >> However, OpenGTL is dead upstream, and the only thing requiring it in >> F20 gold - calligra-krita, by way of libQtGTL - has already been updated >> to Obsolete OpenGTL. As far as I know OpenGTL is the only such package >> we have requiring LLVM 3.3, so the rest of the rebase should just be a >> matter of updating to match F21. >> >> The following source packages will also be updated for the llvm rebase: >> >> dragonegg >> gambas3 >> pocl >> pure >> python-llvmpy >> >> If there are no serious objections I'll try to get this all into testing >> early next week. If you _do_ happen to be using OpenGTL for something >> in F20, now would be an excellent time for you to start working on >> porting it to current LLVM. > > I can absolutely see the reasons for doing this, but...can it at least > go through a fesco rubber stamp? Let's face it, entirely deprecating a > library we shipped as part of the gold release seems to be a pretty > flagrant violation of the update policy, and really ought to be granted > a formal exception at the very least if it's going to go ahead. > > "As a result, we should avoid major updates of packages within a stable > release. Updates should aim to fix bugs, and not introduce features, > particularly when those features would materially affect the user or > developer experience." > "ABI changes in general are very strongly discouraged" > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#Stable_Releases > > Fedora *is* a platform, not just a set of packages, however half-assedly > we conform to that vision, so I guess I just feel a bit uncomfortable > not at least putting up a few hoops for this to jump through. :) This patch may be useful: https://abf.rosalinux.ru/openmandriva/opengtl/blob/master/opengtl-0.9.18-llvm-3.4.patch > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net Paulo -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct