On 03/26/2014 05:52 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: > On Wed 26 Mar 2014 05:29:55 PM CET Christopher wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Deepak Bhole <dbhole@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> * Christopher <ctubbsii@xxxxxxxxxx> [2014-03-25 19:59]: >>>> I also would like to see 1.7.0 stick around for awhile. Not >>>> necessarily as the default, but at least available in the repos. As it >>>> stands, it's difficult to use a modern Fedora on projects that are >>>> still developing against JDK 1.6. >>>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, OpenJDK7 will be EOLd in April 2015[1], which is within >>> the support time-frame of the F21. This is one the reasons why we would >>> like to be able to switch over to OpenJDK8 asap for F21. >>> >>> 1: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html >> >> I don't see how Oracle tentatively dropping long-term public support >> for 7 means that Fedora needs can no longer provide OpenJDK7 in its >> repos (not as default, of course), with or without additional updates, >> for developers who want to use a modern Fedora, but need to develop >> for applications/hardware that requires strict 7 compatibility. >> >> The alternative is Fedora fans will be forced to use an older version >> of Fedora, use a different Linux distro, or find some hackish >> workaround (yum --releasever=20 ...; which is problematic, because >> every version 8 update will obsolete 7, just like 7 currently does >> with 6 packages), or download untrusted 3rd party packages. >> >> It seems to me that support in Fedora would be pretty easy: just make >> sure it doesn't cause a packaging conflict and recommend the newer >> JDK8. Maybe call it -compat? But, I defer to the experts on Fedora >> packaging/support policies and decisions. I'm just a user, and don't >> know all the implications for trying to include it. I just think it'd >> be nice to keep around. > > It's not a question if we can have multiple parallel JDKs (we already > can, you can install 7 and 8 at the same time). > > What we *can't* have in Fedora is a high-profile package which doesn't > receive security updates upstream and there is nobody in Fedora willing > and capable of doing that. > > What's the big deal with using '--target 1.7' anyway? That covers 99% of > use cases, and any possible problems will have to be caught by CI > running whatever you'd be deploying on anyway. Even with --target 1.7 you can still use some Java 8 features provided by standard library, which are not available in Java 7. That's the reason tools like animal-sniffer were created. -- Mikolaj Izdebski -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
