Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-05)

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On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:17 +0100, Petr Viktorin wrote:
>> On 03/07/2014 10:59 AM, H. Guémar wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I don't think that worrying about perpetuating offensive stereotypes
>> > is specifc to the US, we have similar controversies in Europe:
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banania#Controversy
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet#Controversies
>>
>> Well, read the second article. "92% of the Dutch public don't perceive
>> Zwarte Piet as racist". I'm not saying it is or is not, or that it
>> should or should not be fixed; I'm saying that there is a culture where
>> this is not perceived as a big deal, as opposed to USA where political
>> correctness is a big deal.
>
> Please, keep the term 'political correctness' out of it, as it is an
> inherently problematic term. It was invented by one side of the
> meta-debate as a stick with which to beat the other side, so its use in
> any ostensibly unbiased evaluation is inappropriate.
>
>> > Anyway, the line between what is acceptable and unacceptable in Fedora
>> > should be that no one should be offended by something that directly
>> > refers to him or his origins in a negative or hurtful way.
>>
>> My point is that the list "him/her and his/her origins" seems rather
>> arbitrary. Why is e.g. "his/her religion" not on the list?
>
> There is at least one starkly obvious difference there, which is that
> you choose your religious beliefs and affiliations; you do not choose
> your race/color/general genetic origin.

Well people can choose to not be offended by random images / texts / whatever.
There is is the option of "just ignore".

But unfortunatly a lot of people don't think that way.
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