On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 22:38 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 03:45:51PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 08:50:18AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 12:45 +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: > > > > > > > 1) Do we consider this a bug and if yes what priority do you give it? From last > > > > week discussions it looks like most people prefer to have tests executed in %check. > > > > > > I don't consider %check to be an appropriate way to run tests, so no, I > > > don't consider it a bug. Stating it broadly: we don't have a separate > > > phase for it in koji, which means we can't adequately set up tests in > > > general; and adding it to koji would be a mistake, because build > > > construction and build validation are fundamentally different phases. > > > > > > This is an argument against %check, not against testing in general. We > > > should be relying on rpmbuild less, not more. rpm doesn't even have > > > anything like Requires(check), does it? > > > > Hmm, then we should probably about enhancing this? Like adding a > > separate phase of for %check to rpmnbuild? > > There is a proposal to allow better testing of packages, and groups of > packages. Actually at least two proposals but the one I'm thinking of > now is: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron Just for the sake of accuracy, taskotron isn't so much a proposal as a thing undergoing full-steam-ahead development, which fesco is kind of expecting to be available for fedora.next: https://bitbucket.org/fedoraqa it is the replacement for AutoQA, which is a thing that currently exists and which we currently use for Real Stuff. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct