On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 09:38:56AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > That being said, a lot of packages in Fedora are simply that: packaged >> > upstreams. Many (most?) package maintainers are not developers of that >> > package and as such are probably not equipped to add tests to their >> > systems. >> > >> > A better case here would be to find a way to identify those packages >> > whose upstreams have tests that are not being run in %check. That >> > probably *would* be considered a bug. >> >> Unless there's a decree from FESCo or FPC about requiring this, it's >> going to be up to the maintainer as to whether using %check to run >> testsuites is required. A lot of testsuites require external network >> access and won't work when run under koji. Also, it increases build >> time and can bloat BuildRequires. It is *not* a clear-cut bug. >> >> Personally, I don't think %check is a good idea at all. > > I think the benefit depends on the level of patching the Fedora maintainer > is doing. If they are shipping just vanilla upstream tar.gz then they can > have a moderate level of confidence in the functionality of their package > without tests, since you can assume upstream ran their test before release. > Running the test suite would however confirm that the package has not > been broken due to a change in an new version of an external library/tool > it depends on, so is a pretty good idea to enable on balance. > > If the maintainer is including any non-trivial patches that I think that > enabling %check should almost be mandatory to ensure they are not causing > regressions through their patches. I don't disagree that testsuites should be run. I just disagree they should be run in %check. It's a poor replacement for things that should be run via AutoQA or some other test framework after the build. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct