On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:21 +0100, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 02/01/2014 11:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Right now, the vision essentially looks like: > >> > >> Fedora Products: This *is* Fedora. It comes in three flavors. > > > > I don't like the hardcoded "three" there at all, because if KDE is > > to ever become a full-fledged Product (which IMHO it should have > > been from the beginning!), it will need to change (unless you're > > dropping one of your 3 sacred spins). > > > > Well, I thought it was clear, since I did include the words "Right > now", but yes: I do think that other products should be both permitted > and planned. One thing I've been discussing as an option with some of > the members of the KDE SIG is to promote Fedora Scientific, based on > the present-day KDE and Scientific Spins, as a fourth Fedora Product. > > I think this would be valuable as it would also act as a prototype for > what the new-product process will need to be going forward. > > To address another concern you had elsewhere: > One of the stated goals of the Products is to provide a known and > reliable setup. I don't view it as reducing Freedom (or Choice) > because a clear goal of this effort is to ensure that if you don't > want this setup, you don't have to use it. You will be able to either > install one of the the Products (and later remove packages you don't > want) or you can install individual packages directly from the > netinstall.iso just as you have always done. So I really view this as > an add-on: if the *choice* a user wants to make is "I'd like someone > who knows more than I do to make the decision about what I should have > installed", that's just as valid a choice as "I want to use DNF > instead of YUM". It's just taking place at a higher level. Very well said and I agree. It takes a long time with some packages to ensure that you have all the dependencies, supporting software (such as Gschem, gnetlist, and ngspice, along with models, footprints, and symbols) and useful utilities, such as snapshot, and Gerber viewers. Moreover, while a user often knows what needs to be done, figuring out which utilities work well with the application is something a new user would not be equipped to handle. Regards, Les H -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
