Am 25.01.2014 23:01, schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > I'm also dogfooding Fedora for almost a decade and i always had updates-testing enabled since it exists. > There were times when Fedora was very aggressive on updates and it had an impact (a positive one overall, i hope) > > There are two poles in our community: one wishing a more bleeding approach, the other emphasizes on stability. > We can't please everyone, but having different products over a common base might concile these two sides totally agreed i like the bleeding approach, otherwise i would not use Fedora on currently 35 machines, 10 of them *real* production starting with FC9 in 2008, the rest my personal desktops and testing VM's around me > We can't please everyone there is something between - offer things as *optional* replacement instead replace working ones simply too early - why - because with the amount of machines people like me own i can decide where i can take responibility to test the replacement and where better not (if i only have the choice) even in the category "production machines" i can draw a line and say "ok, that one can also play testser for this and that because this piece can't likely break down operations from users point of view" and *that* was the reason for my DNF post - *currently* it feels not to satisfy any of my environments while i *really* like to help testing ________________________ Jan 25 21:58:18 Updated: elfutils-libelf-0.158-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 25 21:58:19 Updated: elfutils-libs-0.158-1.fc20.x86_64 Jan 25 21:58:19 Updated: elfutils-0.158-1.fc20.x86_64 most likely not even in updates-testing now ________________________ well that packages built from source and tomorrow ready for give karma if they all do not break verry likely fine to be pushed Jan 25 22:31:34 Updated: apr-1.5.0-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:31:34 Updated: apr-devel-1.5.0-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:32:55 Updated: httpd-2.4.7-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:32:55 Updated: httpd-devel-2.4.7-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:32:55 Updated: 1:mod_ssl-2.4.7-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:32:55 Updated: httpd-tools-2.4.7-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-common-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-cli-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-pdo-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-mysqlnd-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:33 Updated: php-devel-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-bcmath-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-xmlrpc-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-xml-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-opcache-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-mcrypt-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-tidy-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-mbstring-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-imap-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-gd-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:35:34 Updated: php-soap-5.5.8-5.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-mailparse-2.1.6-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-ssh2-0.12-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-mysqlnd_qc-1.2.0-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-xdebug-2.2.3-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 7:php-pecl-imagick-3.1.2-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-uploadprogress-1.0.3.1-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:36:11 Updated: 6:php-pecl-geoip-1.0.8-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:47 Updated: libzdb-3.0-2.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:47 Updated: libevent-2.0.21-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:47 Updated: gmime-2.6.19-1.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: 2:postfix-2.11.0-3.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: dbmail-3.1.10-1.fc20.20140125.rh.3.1.10.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: gmime-devel-2.6.19-1.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: libevent-devel-2.0.21-4.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: libzdb-devel-3.0-2.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64 Jan 25 22:51:48 Updated: 1:dovecot-2.2.10-2.fc20.20140125.rh.x86_64
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