Hi! On 23.01.2014 22:45, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 19:03 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> wikipedia page. Further: kororaproject.org, fedorautils-installer and >> similar project show that there are people that want to make Fedora >> better. But they do their work outside of Fedora and RPM Fusion; >> fixing the issues directly at the root would be better for all of us. > Those particular examples are very bad examples because they are doing > things Fedora explicitly chooses not to do, [...] See my reply in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/194581.html as that hopefully better explains what I had up in my mind. > [...] > And the lead Korora dev is an active Fedora contributor. I know, but for me Korora, fedorautils-installer, and similar things are a sign that some problems in Fedora and RPM Fusion get circumvented in to many layers instead of being solved at their root. It reminds me of a kernel enhancement that is maintained outside of the Linux kernel: they often solve real problems and some users love them, but it's better for everyone to get a proper solution upstream, as that's the way to reach the masses and make things "simply work". Cu knurd -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct