Am 02.01.2014 20:25, schrieb Dan Mashal: > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery > <richard.vickeryrv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >>> >>> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready >>> >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html >>> >>> please realize that a drop-in replacement *first* needs to be *really* >>> drop-in and not "somehow like", otherwise all the things you may make >>> better are worthless >>> >>> and yes "yum remove kernel" is a *minimum* to handeled properly >>> >>> there are people maintaining RHEL5,RHEL6,RHEL7 and Fedora machines >>> guess how abused they are if they have completly different behavior >>> because dveleopers tend to call anything they don't like to implement >>> a "border case" >>> >> >> Reindl makes a very good case here against the adoption. The last thing we >> want is to cause confusion in the community. It may be very wise to wait and >> give the community more time to absorb dnf. I confess that it would be a >> learning curve for me to use this command: I could imagine the headaches it >> would bring others with much more pressing deadlines. > > I don't understand what the learning curve is? It works exactly the > same as yum. Typing 'dnf' instead of 'yum' is a learning curve? > > I'm confused Richard Hughes: It's not a drop-in replacement >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html the bahvior is obviously not (or *not yet*) identical and the viewpoint what are not often used bordercases may vary and depend on the environment as i pointed out "yum -y remove kernel" is a regular task here after machines are running long enough with the last recent one as cleanup and because that and beause there are voices saying DNF will probably replace YUM with Fedora 22 are the reason i started this thread to make aware that this may be a critical change someone may say: Fedora 22 is far away - not entirely true because F21 will be released most likely this summer and if the 6 months release cycle holds F22 end 2014 or at least at the begin of 2015 so the only thing i wanted to point out is: please be careful with decisions expierience shows if decisions happened they are not reverted, so it needs take care *before* and if DNF replaces YUM later (F23, F24, F25) it could be a valid option to rename it back to YUM and make a real drop-in replace without any harm
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