Am 02.01.2014 17:35, schrieb Richard W.M. Jones: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready >> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444565.html >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444563.html >> >> please realize that a drop-in replacement *first* needs to be *really* >> drop-in and not "somehow like", otherwise all the things you may make >> better are worthless > > Why did you even bother posting this message, if not to dismiss the > hard work of people who actually do stuff, rather than spending all > day trolling? to prevent that the same as with GRUB2 and systemd way too early made it in a stable release happening again - and after that get again "why are you open your mouth now and not due testing" back if this is "trolling" in your eyes i can't help you replacing things too soon means lacking of functionality and bugs in cases which worked perfect over years - so for me if someone is going out and replace working things there must be a very good reason to do so and the minimum acceptance is that it must provide *all* capabilities of what is replaced > DNF is a planned replacement (some time in the future). Ales is quite > correctly asking for feedback and opening things up to a wider > userbase. Some things don't work, as he is aware oh yeah "i see" with answers like "In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase -y kernel' by accident" - no i distribute "yum -y remove kernel" since years over a infrastructure *because i know* yum would never remove the running kernel "If there are specific plugins you'd like to see sooner please open bugs for them" - oh no - the other way round things are working, there are yum-plugins over years in the fedora repos, so if someone goes out and start replacing yum he do not need bugreports
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