On 1 November 2013 03:19, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Having as the only GUI package management application on your spin one that > does not even offer all packages is very broken. You forgot to type "in my opinion"... >> We have a notion of 'core app' - for things that 'come with the OS'. We >> don't allow to uninstall those. > WTF!? Sure. GNOME is a complete desktop, not a collection of packages designed to be replaced. >> Compared to Ubuntu, certainly. But compared to gpk-application F19, I >> don't think so. > Always the same broken assumption that Ubuntu's flawed design is the model > to copy. Actually, Ubuntu Software Center allows you view packages too, although this split application/package model leads to a lot of oddness in the UI. Packages are not interesting to desktop users, they are just an implementation detail of how to get something done. e.g. "Play my media file", "Open this document someone sent to me". Anyone wanting to do things like "install a mysql server" or "remove evince" already knows what they are doing, and is better served using yum/dnf on the console. We wanted to write an application that rocked for a certain set of users, rather than write a generic UI that wasn't really usable by anyone. Also, given that you can easily install the old packagekit package tools using the application installer, there's really no reason to get upset at all. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct