> I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but one thing I would argue is > that opening up the technical tools is absolutely central. > > To me a key question is "can you have an external package maintainer?" > (and parallel questions like "can you have external translators," etc.) > > Because the governance and decision making should be based on > maintainers/contributors, and that means there's no outside decision > making until you have a way for outsiders to be maintainers and > contributors. Of course people are contributing today, but there are > certain limits on what they can do from outside Red Hat. > > It's not like most open source projects have any formal decision making > policy. It's really rough consensus of the core contributors. I know this is not the most functional example - but big projects like distributions and other large projects do have some established hierarchy - and sometimes they have a process for making those decisions. -sv