Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

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On 08/23/2013 10:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

    * a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI


You think BZ is slow now?
What do you mean by "now" ... now as in comparison to yesterday, or in general.

In general, my issues with bugzilla basically are two:

- It's UI is clumsy to use for Fedora - filing or searching bugs requires a lot of user interaction, some of which are not easy to accomplish.

I meanwhile have begun to favor searching BZ for some classes of BZs through the pkgdb (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages), because its UI seems easier to use.

- The turnaround times, esp, during searches leaves much to be desired on my side. I have no idea about the cause, whether my gradually aging machine has become too slow for bugzilla, whether I am having a bad network connection to BZ@RH, whether my firefox/F19 is having problems or if bugzilla is having performance problems.

All I can say, my subjective experience with bugzilla often is "jerky responses" to UI interactions. In most cases in the order of several seconds, but sometimes also in the order of several tenths of seconds, in rare cases in the order of several minutes.

I meanwhile am leaning to enter and search BZ throuhg https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages


    * much longer build.log holding time for FTBFS.


I think this comes down to the amount of storage it takes and the amount
we have available.
Is that really that much? I am not asking for keeping "all of a failed built" forever. I am only asking to keep the last failed builts, or at least the log files of them.

When it comes to estimating whether somebody might be able to help out, they are a valuable resoure. At least I stop looking into FTBFSes, when noticing the class of failure probably appears not to be in my domain of knowledge.


    - better mirroring: I am having the impression mirrormanager doesn't
    work well at all. E.g. this morning, yum sent me around the globe
    for rawhide and failed in the end, seemingly because all fast
    mirrors seem to be busy loading f20.


TBF I don't believe this is anything to do with mirror manager at all,
the fact is a lot of mirrors just don't hold rawhide or don't update it
daily so they're at times out of date.

Well, I am pretty sure the metalink files as being provided by dl.fedoraproject.org occasionally point me to mirrors which were out-of-sync. These incidents sometimes seem to be temporary, but I've also observed cases where mirror manager pointed me to mirrors which seem to have been busy syncing.

This not only happens for rawhide and not only during branching, but occasionally also happens with fedora-updates.

Ralf

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