On Thu, 2013-08-01 at 18:36 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Tomasz Torcz <tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:05:39PM +0200, Stefan Held wrote: > >> What exactly is holding the Updates back in Fedora? > >> Is there a reason for excluding the 5.x Series? > > > > > > See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bluez5 > > and the thread starting at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-May/182355.html > > I was kind of expecting this would have landed by now though, Bastien > will be @ GUADEC this week so not sure if he'll respond quickly For the NetworkManager side, porting to Bluez5 requires a couple things yet to finish: 1) DUN support: bluez5 makes this incredibly difficult because the DUN serial channel is no longer a kernel device and thus can't be used with pppd, can only be seen by one process, thus we pretty much have to cut Bluez5 out of the DUN path entirely. That's being worked on slowly. 2) a behavior change in NetworkManager to show all PAN/DUN capable devices immediately, not just ones that have been configured during pairing. This requires some updates to the GUI apps and some additional changes to NetworkManager to prompt the user to configure the device upon first-use, instead of at pair-time. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct