On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 16:44 -0500, Billy Crook wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 17:23 -0400, Douglas Schilling Landgraf wrote: > >> I have installed Fedora 17/18/19 (selected Minimal installation) from > >> DVD and it completed successfully, however there is no tar tool. > > It's missing screen, vim, and a bunch of other "core" utilities too. > Fedora seems to be moving toward a @core that has essentially the > fewest packages possible to boot. > > >> Was this change intentional? Thoughts? > > > > Why do you say 'change'? From a quick look in comps, tar has never been > > in the 'minimal' group (which was called @base up until a few releases > > ago and is now called @core). > > What would it take to get a group like @core, but immediately usable > for most actual work (tar missing? really?)? That would be @standard. > I think there are a significant number of Fedora users, like Adam, and > myself, who would use this instead of @core, given the option. I don't know why you're reading that into my post. I use @core and I like it, and I'd prefer it to be as minimal as possible. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct