On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 22.07.13 11:22, Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 04:40:14PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> > > Whenever I go to a tech meetup or talk to someone from a new startup >> > > company, their developers are inevitably using a different (usually >> > > proprietary) desktop OS, plus a non-Fedora distribution on their code. >> > > We're being left behind and left out. It doesn't matter how >> > > theoretically great we are if we end up with no users. >> > I don't see how your proposal solves any of those issues. You are >> > actually splitting Fedora into multiple >> > distributions which makes it even worse (more fragmentation, not >> > really something you can target etc etc). >> >> Right now, we have a unified system which we pretty much guarantee cannot be >> targeted at all. It's moving too fast at every level. > > Honestly this is the only thing that holds together Fedora at all. The 6 > month release cycle and the fact that the entire distro needs to be in > shape then is the only thing that keeps Fedora from falling completely > into pieces. > > It would certainly be a better idea to develop Fedora more like a single > OS rather than just a set of motley components with different release > cycles and insular "rings". For example, isolating GNOME development > from the core OS is certainly the signal in the wrong direction. > > I am fine with splitting out the actual enduser apps out, but that's > nothing that can happen before we actually have a sane concept of > apps. But for the rest we should work on creating one strong unified > platform rather than a conglomerate of puzzle pieces that won't fit > together. You just weaken the name of Fedora that way, we won't stand > for anything anymore but a set of awkwardly non-integrated unsynced > components. > > Sorry, but I am not buying this proposal, it appears to go 180° in the > wrong diretcion... Exactly and pretty much all (successful) competitors do it that way (that's not limited to linux distributions). -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel