On 07/22/2013 08:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Well, assuming people use the local machine for reading their mails, and
not Thunderbird or so and not GMail and so on, or Zimbra or whatever
else people actually read mails with these days... None of these even do
local message reading.
Thunderbird reads spool mail. You also have mailx for those that really
want it that way.
I am not sure of other MUA but doesn't they also read spool mail?
Evolution did last I used it.
And if you use a web based MUA, you simply change the line starting with
root in /etc/aliases and run mewaliases, and the mail turns up in the
web mail system.
Again, the output is not lost.
One thing though, /etc/aliases ought to be updated with information on
who should get "system mail" during installation. This part is missing,
which creates the illusion that the output is lost.
By ensuring all logs go to the normal
log stream there's a much better chance of not losing messages...
The problem is that this data can be quite voluminous. Perhaps a bad
thing to clog up the logs with that?
Emails due to base64 encoding usually increase everything by 4/3, which
is certainly worse.
But those emails does not end up in the log, do they? What I am hinting
on is the voluminous messages normally sent to root, that you want to
deliver to the logs instead.
The mail messages sent to root, or whoever you send it to, can be quite
voluminous. I use yum-cron and today got the following message. How
would this be handled by the log/journal/whatever?
Lars
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