You apparently don't want anyone who is working on Open Source as part of any job (Red Hat or not) involved in the distribution you support (since you said you don't value system admins fixing things while on the clock the same either). Here's one of Fedora's Core Values: Friends We believe success comes from a strong community, made of people from around the world, working together. There's a place in Fedora for anyone who supports our values and wants to help. By collaborating with each other openly and transparently, and with a strong, supportive partnership with our sponsors, we can achieve great things. If that doesn't agree with your goals, then IMHO you should find another distribution. This will be my only post in this thread. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel