On 07/22/2013 07:59 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> said:
On 07/22/2013 06:52 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> said:
On 07/22/2013 03:38 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 02:28:52PM +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Should be made less RHEL we want people to use Fedora not RHEL
Candidly, we want people to use both.
We being you and the rest of the Red Hat's employees working in the
project?
"We" being Fedora.
Well I'm pretty sure your "We" there is not representive for the
whole Fedora community...
I'm pretty sure yours is not representative either. Now we both have
claims that can't be backed up.
You seem to have some kind of issue with Red Hat and its employees.
So me having my own opinions which does not align with Red Hat has
now become an issue with Red Hat and it's employees.
I do not (nor have I ever) work for Red Hat.
I never said you did
Last time I checked this project still allowed freedom of speech.
There is nothing constructive in your recurring attacks against Red Hat.
They don't do anything to further Fedora, so they don't belong here.
Make it clear to me how I was attacking him by responding to his claim?
I
don't know (or really care) why, but please stop throwing rocks at them
on the Fedora mailing lists.
He states "Candidly, we want people to use both."
I have absolutely no interest in our users base being using Fedora +
RHEL and us our community work being called RHEL test bed users in
the process.
I'm only interesting in our userbase using Fedora, Red Hat can
increase their contributor base by simply hiring them we do not...
Red Hat is the primary sponsor of the Fedora Project,
Yes they are as sponsor and?
and they base RHEL
on Fedora's development.
Irrelevant that's their chose
One of the Fedora goals is "First", which
brings rapid development.
We have not lived up to that foundation for quite some time.
That level of development is inherently not
appropriate for some types of installations, especially infrastructure
servers.
That's arguable
In those cases, it makes more sense for people who like the
environment of Fedora (rpm, yum, etc.) to use a slower-changing platform
like RHEL (or the community rebuilds like CentOS).
Yes if you require long term APIs and ABIs stability then using RHEL is
best choice out there.
Some people tried to do a Fedora extended-life release, and there just
wasn't sufficient community support to keep it functional. Fedora can't
try to be all things to all people;
I disagree
We have long outcrown the "defaults" as a project so Fedora should not
try to be anything other then the platform for sub-communities to build
and thrive or die upon and as such it is all things to all people where
it matters.
JBG
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