On Fri, 19.07.13 19:37, Miloslav Trmač (mitr@xxxxxxxx) wrote: > However, having the /usr/sbin/sendmail API available to applications > is valuable - it brings a significant system administration benefit of > centralizing the SMTP configuration. Sure it is valuable. However, it's also a pretty bad API, since it currently will accept all messages but in most cases silently eat them up and devlier to a mailbox that constantly grows and is never checked. APIs that claim to work but actually don't, and where there's *no* way to figure that out are just inhrently broken. In general, we should work on centralizing things more, we certainly agree on that. However, I find it really surprising to draw the line here between logs generated by cron jobs (and similar cases) where traditionally mails were sent, and the rest were traditionally logfiles were written. That makes very little sense... If you want to centralize system configuration, rather then services, then go ahead and do, that, but actually centralize *the configuration*, not the service. In particular, because a centralized client-side SMTP service is a really questionnable thing on today's Internet where SMTP delivery connections are almost always authenticated by a *user* id. Due to that they are generally much better configured in the MUA which actually run in the user context instead of a system service which lacks all that and where no infrastructure exists for supplying user authentication information. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel