On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > * We need to be more than that Why? > * Not widely used by RHEL users RHEL and Fedora could hardly be more different from each other. It's not an apple vs orange, it's fruit fly vs tortoise. In some ways RHEL seems way too far behind Fedora. In other ways, Fedora seems to be too bleeding edge (primarily the lack of stabilization). There isn't an approach that's in between. I don't know how this is fixed because I'm not certain it's a problem. > > * We're not seen as relevant... > * Let alone exciting By whom? Personal opinion? The board? Fesco? The community? Phoronix? Depending on where this is coming from, a structural change may be indicated which in turn causes a change to the project's product. But asserting the need to directly change the product (i.e. the Fedora release itself) as a direct appeal to the community is curious. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel