On Sat, 2013-07-20 at 16:58 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Sam 20 juillet 2013 00:46, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 14:23 -0500, Billy Crook wrote: > > > >> > It's not as if the default MTA configuration, as I understand it (no > >> smart > >> > host, attempt to send all mail directly with the FQDN) is generally > >> useful > >> > OOTB. > >> > >> It is to me, and I suspect I am not alone. > > > > I call bullshit. How is it useful to you? All it can possibly do is > > deliver mail to root and users in /var/spool . We don't set up any mail > > reader to read this mail out of the box. No app is very likely to know > > your user name and send mail to you. The only practical thing you can do > > with the OOTB sendmail configuration is manually read or configure an > > agent to read the mail in root's /var/spool directory - and that is not > > the recommended way to read root's mail _anyway_, the recommended way is > > to alias root to a user account. > > And the recommended way is trivial (even though anaconda should really set > up the alias at install time) > > What won't be trivial *at* *all* is if you encourage app authors to invent > their own one-of-a-kind not-really-tested communication stack. God knows > they are already leaning towards wheel reinventing without any such system > blessing. > > Set up your own replacement. Make it good, secure and easy to operate. > Have it widely adopted. And then you can talk about removing the default > MTA. If it's good enough you have nothing to fear about MTA competition. > If you do need MTA removal to get your stuff adopted, well, that only > tells me your stuff is crap. You seem to be chasing an argument I've never seen anyone produce before, without a single shred of concrete evidence to back it up: that the presence or absence of a non-functioning MTA by default in a single Linux distribution will significantly affect the likelihood of an app choosing to use local mail delivery as a standard notification mechanism. Could you please, before pushing this line of reasoning any further, produce some shred of evidence to substantiate it? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
