On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 07:26:15PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> said: > > Sure, those are the defaults. If you had written that you don't like > > the systemd defaults, instead of talking about "bugs", this whole > > conversation would have been much productive. > > When I described the behavior, I was told I was wrong and that the lines > weren't chopped (which I then wondered why there was a "--full" option). > Neither the documentation or the emails mentioned that journalctl > overrides $LESS with the option to chop lines; I only found that out by > tracing the process. The UI is to a large degree a child of the git UI, I have to admit I find it self-explanatory. But I can see how one wouldn't think of pressing the right arrow, if one was convinced that jouranlctl has truncated the lines. An explanatory paragraph has been added to journalctl(1). > > > Another thing that I don't see in the man page is why some lines are > > > bold/in color. > > error -> red, notice -> bold, etc. > > Which Lennart said should be documented in the man page, which is now on > the to-do list. Also done. Both changes are online [1], and should be available in the next Fedora rawhide package. > > It's a feature you don't get traditionally because syslog drops the > > priority information from the on-disk format. > > I'd expect that if somebody thought that was an important default, the > log format would have been updated years ago when rsyslog became the > default. Not without (a) breaking scripts, (b) annoying people, because precious screen estate would be wasted on markers for the log level. Zbyszek -- they are not broken. they are refucktored -- alxchk -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel