On Jul 15, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > "tail -f /var/log/messages" becomes "journalctl -f" It's so useful I would like this a default during anaconda installations in one of the shells. > journalctl makes a lot of things easier, much easier. If you say it is > complex or difficult to use I am pretty sure you never had a closer look > at it. I find it quite a bit easier to use and have disabled rsyslog as part of my new setup procedure since F18; but that's only after using journalctl and messages side by side for a while and finding, so far, that journalctl contains more information but is easier to filter than messages. >> Lets try to keep things simple. This is why we use Fedora. This is why I >> use Fedora. > > We are certainly making things simpler by introducing nice query tools > like journalctl and by reducing the number of packages we install by > default, and by removing redundancy. I think the simple reference is in regards to the implied rewiring of biomatter that'll be needed to drop rsyslog. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel