I vote against this proposal as stated. I want all the systems I administer to have a /var/log/messages without any special configuration having to be done. I don't care whether /var/log/messages is written by syslog or systemd journal, as long as it has essentially the same text-based format as presently provided by syslog, but having to take a manual step to configure systemd journal to produce it is unacceptable. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel