On Mon, 15.07.13 10:14, Peter Robinson (pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 07/15/2013 10:44 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: No Default Syslog = > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog > >> > >> Change owner(s): Lennart Poettering <lennart at poettering net>, Matthew > >> Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject org> > >> > >> No longer install a traditional syslog service by default. (Specifically, > >> remove rsyslog from the @core or @standard groups in comps.) > >> > >> The systemd journal will be the default logging solution. Rsyslog, > >> Syslog-NG, > >> and even traditional sysklogd will continue to cover use cases outside of > >> the > >> default. > > > > > > My voice may be one of thousands, but I'm saying: I want to have traditional > > syslog service as default and have journal from systemd as option. > > This doesn't stop you from having a traditional syslog service, it's > just not installed in the desktop spins by default. "yum install > rsyslog" will continue to provide you the status quo. We are talking about @core and @defeult btw. So this chnage applies to all spins, not only desktop, unless they explicitly readd rsyslog to their spins. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel