On 2013-07-09 10:53, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
llvmpipe has been known to be broken for months, and nobody on the ARM
team appears capable of fixing it. As a result, ARM shipped in F19
without any out of the box support for running our default desktop.
This doesn't make it seem like the ARM port currently has sufficient
developer expertise involved, and I'd really like to hear what the
plans
are for (a) fixing the existing problems, and (b) ensuring that we
don't
end up in a situation where other architectures are held up because
there's nobody who can fix ARM-specific bugs.
Does the secureboot situation on arm mean that this primary
architecture
will eventually be un-bootable for people running a non-redhat signed
kernel?
I think you're mistaking "the secure boot situation on *Microsoft* ARM"
for "the secure boot situation on ARM".
ARM devices that want to come with an OEM copy of Windows RT
pre-installed have to do certain things with Secure Boot which
effectively prevent anyone else from booting on them. Okay. So, we don't
support such devices.
Microsoft cannot magically apply their OEM licensing requirements to
Every ARM Device Ever, including all the ones that don't run Windows RT.
Which is like 97+% of ARM devices, given the Windows RT sales figures so
far.
Various other popular consumer ARM devices use other techniques - *not*
UEFI Secure Boot - for locking out alternative OSes, so Fedora isn't
going to work on those either, unless they're hacked. Too bad. As
bconoboy says, such things simply fall in the 'unsupported hardware'
box.
When reading media articles about SB, bear in mind they're usually
wildly inaccurate. For the straight dope, apply to mjg59, pjones, or if
neither of them is available, me (but remember I'm just the monkey).
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